Mktg_Podcast-51: Org Charts, AIAIO (SEO)
– Three layers of an org chart
– Search-SEO, AI-AIO, AIAIO?!
– AI vs Humans

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– Three layers of an org chart
– Search-SEO, AI-AIO, AIAIO?!
– AI vs Humans
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– Be Creative !?
– Complexity of success
– Repeatability of success
– SBUX re-success
– Nvidia continuous success
– AI vs. Search
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When special guest Sam Brealey joined us in episode 38, as we discuss marketing strategy and execution, specially for small businesses, but we didn’t have enough time to go deeper into marketing for the small business. And there were several requests to do so. So we are delighted to have Sam again to have a hearty discussion of what it takes to market for small and medium sized businesses/enterprises (SMB/SME). We end with a discussion of the article Can I have your attention please?, by Sam Brealey and Max Stricker, originally published in WARC in February 2024. And yes, we also have the Cartoons of “the week”. Join us!
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– Red Herrings, Strawmen, Slippery Slopes
– Tupperware, Nike, Starbucks
– Affiliate Marketing
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– Thought Leadership, Celebrity Culture
– Nike’s new ad: just win??
– Starbucks’s new CEO, digital channel
– Do you need all that data article by Alastair Thomson
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Join Shahin and Doug for a lively discussion of resilience, crisis, and decisions, all motivated by the Crowdstrike cybersecurity event:
– This meeting could have been an email I wouldn’t read
– Resilience, Crisis Management
– Decision Making, Improvisation
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Special guest Mahta Emrani joins us to discuss the hot topic of AI and synthetic data for market research:
– AI will usher in fast, cheap, high quality research, right?
– It’s all about details and nuances
– Why do research?
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– Obsession
– Competition
– What Market Share?
– Hedgehog and Fox
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– Hitting the target
– Starbucks, Mobile Orders
– It’s Not the Data
– Private Internal Communications?
– Faking AI Projects
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– Eclipse-like markets
– Featuring your competition in your ad?
– Chevy Nova’s naming myth
– Math and Marketing
– The Seinfeld-Bergman Spectrum!
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Special guest JP Castlin joins us as we discuss a broad set of topics:
– Did you say “Praxis”?
– Strategy and Marketing
– Apple and DOJ
– Amazon’s Frequency of Sale Events
– Marketing and Math
– Efficiency and Resilience
– Strategy and Change
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– Customer experience in the digitized markets. Where’s the competition?
– Marketing-Finance Alignment
– Poetry! What do you lose when you analyze? What’s missing when you synthesize?
– Kicking the can on conversion
– Dune merch?
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– Marketing Mix, can you brand, nurture, activate, sell all at the same time?
– Marketing of Apple Vision Pro
– Market Research, Quantitative, Qualitative, pitfalls
– Strategy, Change Management, Praxis
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Special guest Sam Brealey joins us as we discuss marketing strategy and execution, specially for small businesses, “pivot to video, and AI in marketing. Cartoon of the week on marketing (or is it sales?) strategy kicks off the discussion. Join us!
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– Cartoon: your product v. pictures of cats
– Agency/freelance pricing models
– How do you define quality?
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– Cartoon: Ven diagram
– What’s the value of Time? of Experience? Creativity? Luck?
– Do you like your customers?
– Marketing Supercomputers, case study
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– Cartoon of the week: double feature
– Are movies getting longer?
– Self Organizing Units, micro metrics for micro management
– Even the best companies face complexity
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– Buzzword Density
– Critics as Media
– J&J’s New Logo
– Emergent Phenomena, Self-Organization in Marketing
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– Is anything wrong with Net Promoter Score (NPS)?
– Surprising customer reaction to IKEA’s store layout
– Complexity, and why Doug is writing a book about it
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– Competence v. Confidence v. Complexity
– Bad Data v. Bad Attitude
– AI-Generated Content’s Copyright and DRM
– Strategy v. Change Management
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– The unicorn Barbie
– Sequels v. One-Time Phenomenon v. Fresh New Material
– Bad Ads? Who’s to say?
– Complexity, the book Doug is writing
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– Cookies and “sketchy data”
– WARC WARNS: AI for Market(ing) Mix Modeling
– GM’s new CMO hailing from digital; and CVS?
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Cartoon of the weak is about bad marketing and so we have to discuss the role of marketing and the importance of alignment between CMO and CEO, then it’s the unfolding social media wars with Meta’s new Threads app and Twitter, and the complications that can arise from Direct to Consumer (DTC) marketing. We end with Data-is-Oil and how crude data, like crude oil, must be refined and out to use before it has high value at smaller volume.
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Cartoon of the week leads to the looming rise of AI and what it means for marketing and how businesses should be responding to the new technology in a way that serves them. Then it’s time to discuss Product, the first of the 4 Ps of marketing.
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The Cart (cartoon) of the week is about data and instigates a big discussion about complexity of marketing data leading to a future when “Driverless Marketing” might become a reality. The noble goal of moving your brand towards more inclusivity did not work out as planned for Anheuser–Busch. We end with a discussion of quotes and memes that have their heart in the right place but are too sweeping for their own good and make it sound like “you had to be there”!
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The Cart (cartoon) of the week is about mis-targeted ads despite all the data that online services have about their users. The challenges of Tupperware, the company that pioneered food storage containers, is next, and we end with a discussion of ethical marketing and a call for examples of successful and ethical marketing, as a counterbalance to too many stories where misbehavior is tolerated and even viewed as clever.
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The inaugural installment of a new section, Cartoon of the Week, takes us to product-market fit vs just raising more funds. Another recurring subject is marketing data, this time covering “good data” and “same data”. Then it’s time to discuss whether the store really is the media?!
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Shahin and Doug discuss a variety of hot topics in marketing, starting what marketing success means, which leads to the difficulties in digital attribution and interpreting data, and whether econometrics can be a solution (as suggested in a recent article in The Drum, “Digital attribution is dead! Les Binet tells us why marketers need econometrics in 2023”, by Samuel Scott). They also get deeper into how the concept of “customer satisfaction” actually correlates to product sales.
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AI in marketing given all the new advances, marketing as a science, add-on marketing (ice cream cones), and tie-in marketing (Nike-Tiffany campaign) and the risks of “rebranding”.
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In the first episode of 2023, Shahin and Doug discuss their takeaways from CES, differentiation versus distinction in marketing, the importance of authenticity in advertising campaigns, and whether inside marketing staff can make good decisions on behalf of the end-user/consumer.
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Barbie-the-movie was announced and it is a big, and so-far effective, move. It also offers such a rich set of marketing topics for discussion. Conversational AI, ChatGPT (Chat Generative Pre-trained Transformer) exceeded expectations at least for the first few interactions, impressed, disappointed, and scared, all at the same time while becoming a tool that marketing teams started testing and using immediately. A quote on impression data leads to a quick discussion again of the role of the CMO, while an old quote about Harvard Business School leads to product innovation vs. financial engineering.
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Physical events are back. Did you say 360-day payment terms? What do companies and candidates get wrong about the CMO role? And the minefield that is marketing data! Join us.
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We start with Microsoft’s Decision to rebrand Office again, this time to Microsoft 365: eliminating “Office” and aligning “365” with the whole company. Retail mergers are next, and interesting because it’s a competitive low margin business. Buying vs. shopping maps well to online vs. in-store and we have a funny story to discuss that next. We end with meat alternatives and how difficult it is to grow in that market, and a big discussion on brand loyalty and brand love.
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The Twitter deal happened, but rewind the tape to when a trove of text messages was published, providing a glimpse into how people of note in tech discuss deals and strategies. So of course we have to discuss that. Then it’s off to another flare-up about “distinctive vs. differentiated”. Is “distinctive” distinctive or differentiated?! The continuing complexities of marketing data. And how your marketing mix needs to mix it up!
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Acupuncture for “ED”?! Yes, it’s a thing and a case study in this episode. How do you position and message and demand-gen for it? Let’s not lose touch with why marketing is needed. And AMA’s definition marketing wants to be taken apart.
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Why some companies thrive during recession, or pandemic, or when the going gets tough. The misguided nature of worker productivity score/software. And touching on Ethics of Marketing, a topic we will come back to in future episodes.
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Every company spends money on Lead Generation. Sometimes quite a lot. How do you determine your marketing mix and then match it to the sales cycle and buying behavior? Lots of moving parts here and we go over many of them: PR, SEO, funnel and buying behavior, lead qualification/scoring/nurturing, sales-marketing alignment, and lead flow. As usual, marketing metrics is an important topic and especially quality and meaning of data. We end with a few recommendations.
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When does “nudging” becoming “nagging”? Behavioral science is on the case with studies (one is critiqued here), on how choice architecture and publication bias impact what works and when. We then move to “Growth Hacking”, discussing what it is and how dangerously close it gets to crossing ethical lines.
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Doug points out a glaring gap in a report on advertising effectiveness, as we look for Product and Place in it! Next is customer references and testimonials in B2B and B2C and how to choreograph and manage them. Join us!
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Time to discuss pricing in B2B and B2C and the many parameters that go into it. But first: what happens when a want ad demands so many skills and qualifications that nobody would qualify?
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Doug and Shahin start with what it takes to go viral and whether it is worth the cost if it doesn’t happen organically. The main topic is the four Ps of marketing and a discussion of product and place in B2B and B2C. Give it a listen and let us know what you think.
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Topics today center around the cost and complexity of marketing, hiring marketing talent, and the unique challenges that CMOs face within the C-Suite. Fun times as usual!
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Shahin and Doug discuss the value add of retail stores versus direct-to-consumer options, whether or not personalization works, and the potential traps of using data in marketing. They also examine the use of television advertising by startups, and whether hesitancy to use TV ads is about money or a larger push away from the “old” way of doing things.
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Shahin and Doug talk about the impact of pandemic on financial results, changes in customer buying behavior as a result of work-from-home (WFH) and depending on demographics, and segue into the differences between B2B and B2C marketing.
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Episode 7 of the Marketing Podcast covers topics ranging from the usefulness of gadgets and “mean time to garage sale”, to advertising, marketing mix, and conversion factors in a funnel, and depth of knowledge.
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Join in another lively episode as we discuss why April Fools’ Day is more challenging nowadays, how the potato earned its own viral moment, Jobs to Be Done (JTBD) and other marketing recipes, and the importance of leaving room for happy accidents when pursuing innovation.
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A lively discussion about 1) the most effective logos, branding and strategy, and the importance of verbal real estate; 2) recruitment marketing and how employee/employer dynamics are shifting; and 3) the high cost of metrics and how projects can turn into products.
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We start with the news of Amazon closing their physical retail (not grocery) stores and the interplay between physical and digital commerce, which leads us to emerging applications of the Metaverse and the difference between the promise of a tech trend and the reality of today’s use cases. We end with a discussion of outsourcing and its impact on business profits and identity.
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We discuss the challenges of “Direct to Consumer” marketing and its impact on Go-to-Market planning. From there, we go to branding and product advantage, covering differentiation vs. distinctiveness as well as the role of marketing, and we end this episode with the joys and complexities of color management, especially in the digital age. Join us!
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Positioning is poetry! Is “recruitment marketing” a new branch? When is brand purpose a driver of business? Is marketing generic or do you need product depth? Why is bad marketing such a common topic in marketing discussions? Did you say “removed negative reviews”? Join in!
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Wordle (recorded before it got acquired), marketing rants on Twitter, Peloton, Competitive Advantage, TikTok, and why CMOs are like radioactive material!
What started as a Marketing Meetup has now morphed into a 15-20 minute Mktg_Podcast. Join Shahin Khan and Doug Garnett (and occasional guests) as they discuss news and happenings in the world of marketing, from the board room to customer programs. Give it a listen!
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